First saw this in 2010 from Obscurity and co when it was still very fresh and had power on and at the time didnt know the guys that well as i was a Noob so didnt get chance to see it,it has been looked after of sorts and work to the roof was carried out 3 odd years ago.Squatters have had their way with the place which im assuming had something to do with access.After 4 odd years of battles over ownership etc things have finally been settled and various groups are involved to get the whole complex up and running again in all its glory!!
Thanks to the guy who posted the pics on an exploring facebook group for the mutually beneficial chat.
Explored with Obscurity,UrbanGinger & Spaceinvader
Brief bit of history..
On 25 April 2008 the Dreamland Cinema had its Listed building status increased from Grade II (buildings of special architectural or historic interest) to Grade II* (particularly significant buildings of more than local interest). The Cinema, which featured a Compton theatre organ,no longer operates after it was closed in 2007 following the opening of a new multiplex cinema at Westwood Cross.
How the place looked 4 years ago
Entrance to the screens
Few from the bingo hall
Behind the stage in bingo area
And the Not quite so grand as 4 years ago compton organ
Sorry its a lot of images..but there is so much in there to see and even though ive spent a fair while walking round all the side rooms and below to the strong room etc i didnt take half as many pics as i could have and tried to keep the numbers down for the report
Visited with Obscurity,Spaceinvader,UrbanGinger,and 2 non members
After such a long break since the last time we visited and it being sealed ,then Blatantly ripped open and then sealed tight this place has been off the circuit of explore,so after a lot of recce and planning a way in was found although it very public and risky, off we went to crack on,thos of you who have visited will know the baths are tidal so with that in mind the first visit was a short one due to the "old" way used to get into the rest of the areas via the old smugglers tunnels being a tad destroyed and collapsed.2nd visit was sorted and the rest of the place was explored only missing a few bits here and there due to the rather non existent routes
Brief history of which there is much
The complex of buildings on the site are of two distinct phases: an early-C19 sea bathing
establishment, dating from 1824, called the Clifton Baths; and a C20 lido, dating from 1926, called the Cliftonville Lido from 1938. The structures are on four levels, the lower levels excavated from the chalk cliffs and only the upper level, on the landward side, above ground level.
More to be found here Margate Architecture: Clifonville Baths granted listed status
On with the pics
A few from Hades where the raves all happened a long time ago now
Price list would be a dream in this day and age
The underground Harbour and then down a level
Below echoes Club
Into the changing rooms which is generaly a tad of a paddle about
Up in the main hall area
The not so grand hall,when i visited 3 years ago it was full of the rotten contents of the hall,stage,chairs the lot all gone
Thanks for putting up with so many images which arent my best, but last time i was here i used a very old nokia mobile fone and that report is long gone!!
Visited with Obscurity Stealth SpaceInvader UrbanGinger and Fortknox0 and on two different visits
Nice to get back in here with a dslr as last time was early days and a camera fone,its not huge but was worth going back for a better look
The origins of these caves, which are not natural but built by man, is shrouded in mystery. The caves may take their name from Vortigern, who supposedly gave the area around Margate to the Saxons as a reward for helping him fight the Picts and Scots. Rediscovered by accident in 1798, the caves are considered by some to be of Saxon origin, consisting of a series of natural passages, which have been artificially enlarged. However, few experts think these 'artificial cavities' (as they are called) go back that far. The first time they appear in history is fairly recent. The guide book would have the visitor believe that the caves are over a 1000 years old and possible even of Phoenician origin! The more likely explanation would perhaps be a more modest medieval origin, or even a Georgian folly. Locally they put the Shell Grotto down as a Victorian folly built at a time when the local shell fish industry would have produced enough shells for them to be freely available (being a by-product).
Somewhere near the close of the 18th Century, a man of eccentric habits, named Francis Forster, built a large house in Margate which he named after the county of his birth - Northumberland House. In or about the year 1798 his gardener, digging behind the house, made the discovery of the Caves. A private entrance was cut. It was during this time that the cave murals were created. In 1914, a new entrance was made from the cellar of the vicarage and this is the entrance used today.
On with some pics
Not a huge place but was nice to revisit after it being not possible for such a while
Right guys, this may cause a bit of controversy as it did on another UE Forum (Got Deleted) due to the fact that its not strictly speaking an explore BUT I liked it and wanted to share it among you my friends because I think its bloody amazing so hopefully I wont have offended anyone
So heres a little history on the place in question
The grotto was discovered in 1835 by James Newlove, who broke through into its roof while digging a duck-pond. It was illuminated by gas lamps and opened to the public in 1838, and has remained in private ownership ever since.
The age of the structure is uncertain and attempts to use radiocarbon dating to determine the age of the site have failed. Carbon deposits from Victorian lamps which were used to illuminate the grotto in the 1800s have entered the shells. Some of the mortar has so far defied analysis and all that scientists can ascertain is that it is fish-based. Mortar analysed from the easily accessible panels has been shown to represent a variety of mixtures, all dating from post 1796. It is a recorded fact, however, that souvenir hunters regularly removed shells from these panels in the nineteenth century and that they had to be replaced. This explains the results of these analyses. Indeed there is evidence for a great deal of intervention in the site: a new archway was added in the nineteenth century and certain sections (such as the so-called 'altar' panel and niche) have been dismantled and then restored since the discovery, as well as the original flooring having been removed.
The Victorian gas lighting has blackened the fragile surface of the once-colourful shells, which are also under attack from water penetration. It is now illuminated by electricity. During World War II the east wall of the so-called altar chamber was destroyed by a bomb.
And Some Pics
Well worth a look if ever youre in the area and more than worth the Â£3 it cost to get in
This crane is on the site of the partly redeveloped Royal Sea Bathing Hospital in Margate. The company responsible for the development went bust a couple of years ago, and since then the site has been a mix of abandoned hospital, occupied apartments in refurbished buildings, and concrete frames which were to be new apartments. The site has clearly been bought out by another company, because there are active security onsite. I don't know why they haven't resumed work yet.
After crossing a wall, I was inside one of the aforementioned concrete structures, and found my way to the base of the crane. The base is covered with hoarding, but another structure was being built around it. I went up a ladder, and ran across the roof of the building to where the crane emerged from it. After sliding through the bars, I began the ascent...
The first 50 feet or so were the worst, as I climbed up past occupied apartments. There was a man on his laptop the whole time I was up there, and I was praying he didn't turn around. One woman decided to hang out of the window for a smoke, luckily she waited until I was well hidden at the top before she did this!
Anyway, enough writing for now - enjoy the pictures. The whole crane was moving, so some of them are slightly out of focus...
The obligatory crane operator portrait!
As I was on the last rung before jumping back out onto the roof, someone looked straight at me and quickly drew the curtains - and almost straight after torch light was coming from the other side of the crane - the ladder to get down was just out of cover, and was lit up. As soon as the security guards starting moving towards me, I ran for the ladder, back through the building and across the wall. As I started up my bike to leave, I saw the crane still bathed in torchlight - perfect timing!
According to a sign, the road up the side of the site is due to be closed on the 27th January for 'Crane Operations' - so it looks like I may have got here just in time!
Thanks for looking!